Dear Amazon,
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Do we look like carders to you?

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What is Amazon's phone number?

As of April 2023:

You don't have to call the international number, but some providers might not support toll free numbers. To dial international numbers you may have to replace the plus sign with 00 depending on your provider and phone. To find the number yourself: try to log in. Click "Forgot your password?", "Customer service", try the various dropdown options.

* +81 is the country code for Japan, +61 is the code for Australia, but it's not a typo. Nocarder verified the number and it's answered with "Welcome to Amazon" (in English) while replacing +81 with +61 results in "number not connected".

What is Amazon's mail address?

The following mail addresses (append @amazon.com to each) possibly accept incoming mail:

They may also work on other Amazon domains (like .de, .nl, etc) but YMMV. According to Reddit, cs-reply, cis and primary just bounce these days. If you know others that do work, tell nocarder.

How do I chat with Amazon's customer service?

You need an account for this.

How do I contact Amazon on social media?

If you mention @AmazonHelp, @Amazon, @JeffBezos or say the keyword "Amazon driver" on Twitter it will magically attract a response from @AmazonHelp. These are all equally effective. Mentioning Jeff doesn't result in a better response. Unless Jeff is already following you. Jeff is not following you.

NEVER SEND AMAZON A COPY OF A GOVERNMENT-ISSUED ID!

Seriously, don't do it! This will put you at risk of identity theft, no joke. They may request this on the document upload form you see when your account is suspended. On the same form, they warn you to cover all but the last four numbers of your credit card. Which effectively communicates their accounts specialists and/or infrastructure can't be depended on to handle sensitive data securely. How long do they store documents? Where? (US? India? Philippines? Wherever they outsourced it?) It's a potential gold mine for black hats. Before nocarder.com existed, their upload form appeared to be broken for Firefox users. How much confidence does that inspire in their infrastructure? A copy of any government-issued ID is much, much more delicate than a silly credit card. If your credit card information is stolen, what happens? Some fraudulent charges, so you'll lose some money. Assuming you don't manage to block the card in time, you stand to lose whatever your remaining spending limit is. Then you block the card and apply for a new one. Insurance may or may not cover the costs, but it doesn't matter. Typically it's just money.

Now try having your identity stolen because some account "specialist" decides to sell the copies of government IDs they receive or Amazon's document storage gets hacked. And while I hate to give anyone ideas, it's really Amazon's fault this is plausible at all: a criminal could mass-mail random people, saying their Amazon account is on hold and they need to provide a copy of a government-issued ID to unlock it. The mail would include a link to a phishing site that is maintained by the criminal. What could a criminal do with this information?

And yes, that's Amazon's fault. If Amazon didn't ever ask for ID, we could educate people that "E-mail that asks for a copy of your ID is a SCAM, delete it immediately!" Maybe we should teach people that anyway.

How do I pass the verification from account "specialists"?

First of all: if you have multiple accounts, focus on your first account. Forget the others for now. As long as related older closed accounts exist they will not reopen your account. They will let you waste time uploading documents, but the check for related accounts isn't done until they are satisfied with the documentation. And if you manage through either luck or a fluke to get one account reopened, say your prayers and forget the other accounts if you don't really need them. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Now it's gonna get weird. There are some things you can do, but none of these make any sense.

Example billing statement with annotation using the Comic Sans font
Seems legit.

For $~80K/yr one would expect employees who can read, but reality begs to differ. They have severe trouble actually reading any documents you give them. You must do their job for them. You need to annotate your documents to indicate where the desired information is. Always use Comic Sans, the most reviled font in the world. It is highly legible, which is required. Use a contrasting and basic color. On a white background, blue works well.

If the document is a scan, photo or screenshot, just use MS Paint or whatever you have at your disposal. If the document comes in PDF format you can use Xournal. Write "last four digits", "name", "address", "date" and whatever else they ask for in an empty spot and draw lines from the words to the requested information. If the result looks like something made by a kindergarten student, you did it right. See the image to get the idea.

They are also picky. Like, really picky. They want to see exactly what they are asking for. Your EXACT name. The last FOUR digits, if your bank only prints three that will NOT suffice. Your address MUST be there, if your bank or utility company doesn't print it, no dice! So here is some advice: if you can make a choice between various documents, for example between utility bills for various services, pick the closest match. Is your water bill still using your maiden name, different from your credit card? Find another bill. Or call the water company and have them change your name. Seriously.

Are none of the utility bills in your name? Then don't bother. Yes, Amazon says that in that case you should indicate the relation between you and the person who pays the bill. While I haven't actually tried this, it's predictable what would happen next. They would ask for scans of a marriage certificate, scans of a rent agreement with both of your names or, if you're just friends with benefits, a video of the both of you doing it. With recognizable faces so they can compare it to your passport photos. Obviously I'm joking and yet I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they actually did that. If they requested something insane from you, please contact nocarder.

Now, the smart cookies among you are possibly thinking.. How does Amazon verify this crap anyway? The water company or your bank ain't gonna tell 'em if those documents are legit. So how could they possibly know?

They can't. I'm not saying you should forge a document to say exactly what the account "specialists" want to hear. Document forgery is illegal in many places, please don't do it. If Amazon does catch you you're well and truly done. While they can't verify the legitimacy of most documents, they can look for signs of forgery. What I am saying is that fraudsters don't care if it's illegal, and I'm also saying any half-decent forgery is likely to be accepted. Or declined on grounds unrelated to the forgery. The whole system is a smokescreen, unrelated to effective fraud prevention. Why it exists at all is beyond me. Presumably smoke and mirrors were cheaper than actual security. For an example of an actually secure platform, see iDEAL. In the world of credit cards a similar security level is possible with at least Mastercard, but the store or payment processor needs to enable it. When adding a card, Paypal appears to use it. Amazon doesn't. Update: I've learned this additional security is 3-D Secure. Amazon uses it but not consistently. Rabobank and ING NL support it but Amazon doesn't use it. I found out Amazon can use 3-D Secure when I used a virtual card from another bank.

How do I deal with account issues on a foreign Amazon?

Woman at Oktoberfest in traditional outfit while holding three full beer mugs
A typical German person

Say you are from Germany. You eat Bratwurst und trinke Lager auf Oktoberfest, and you have an account issue on Amazon.com. You should probably try to solve it, but if that doesn't work you should ask them to transfer the problem to "your" Amazon, like Amazon Germany. Amazon Germany is more likely to understand your situation, culture, the banking system and your language. And don't forget: no expensive long-distance calls. Long-distance calls are much cheaper with a cheap VoIP account (I call the US for 2ct/m from Europe), but not everyone has that set up. If you want help with that, try asking r/VOIP or any tech forum.

If Amazon refuses to transfer your issue, keep politely bugging them. Both your local Amazon and the Amazon where you have an issue. Never be rude! If all else fails, mail Jeff. Keep it short. Like really short, 500 characters tops I guess. And get straight to the point. If you get no response from ECR on behalf of Jeff: create a website, pay for a decade of domain+hosting in advance, create social media accounts and politely ask Jeff for a comment. That's how you get to Amazon's Executive Customer Relations who may still ghost you but will perhaps forward the issue to your local Amazon before that. Um, I suppose the last part isn't overly practical for most people..?

How do I prevent this from happening to me?

Every time you place an order, your order is likely silently awarded a fraud score by Amazon's fraud bot. This typically happens within 2 minutes after you've placed an order. Exceed some preset threshold and your account gets suspended. Some general advice to keep your score down:

And in case the fraud bot tackles you anyway:

Naturally there are no official sources on safe order values. At one point Amazon customer service told me $500 is considered a big order, though another agent suggested I split my order of $2500 in two or three smaller orders.. so they don't really know. But if you never bought from Amazon before and are tempted by a discounted laptop or TV.. hold your horses.

Many more factors could be involved. Payment methods from least to most suspect: wire transfer/iDeal, credit card for which Amazon supports 3-D Secure, credit card without 3-D Secure, gift card. I wouldn't be surprised if a wire transfer would bypass the fraud bot altogether as there are no chargebacks possible. Meanwhile, gift cards are notorious for getting accounts suspended. Buying a product that can be resold easily (most notoriously gift cards, iPhones and iPads) is likely a trigger as well. Gifting to someone else or entering a new delivery address could also be a trigger. Finally, gifting to someone who is a longtime loyal Amazon customer doesn't exempt you from the fraud bot. It kinda would make sense if it did, but it doesn't.

Nothing worked, can I never use Amazon again?

If Amazon closed an account, regardless of the reason, any new accounts that are created are likely to get automatically closed. Cnet has described how a customer got around this but seemingly missed a few details. The delivery address is key. So after a ban, one would have to move house to get back on Amazon. There are "reship" companies that can provide one with a virtual address, in some cases that might work as an alternative to moving house. Other factors that Amazon could be using to identify a customer are less costly to change:

Lemmy Morgan has also written a lengthy and informational post about this subject. Obviously all of this is purely hypothetical and not meant as advice.

I'm a suit from Amazon, what can I do about this?

Besides actually solving my problem? So glad you asked!

Wait, you meant what can you do about this site? OOOoooh. Presumably you'd rather see it gone? That's too bad, it's not hosted on AWS because I'm not stupid. Take over the domain when it expires? You could try that. In 2033. Maybe send a baseless cease-and-desist letter? See below for contact info.

Who operates and funds this site?

A disgruntled Amazon customer. Not George Soros.

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